Dear Sir or Maam, Why add Edith's lady's maid, who doesn't have anything really interesting to do? Kois: Seth, I wonder about this, too. You said the son of Lord Grantham would have been called Lord Downtown, why was this not the case for Robert when his own father was the Lord Gratham? 1,163, This story has been shared 1,143 times. Bb), but if you plot out genetic probabilities on a basic Punnett square, two blue-eyed parents with double bbs have seemingly no shot at producing a Bb baby. Please clarify. Oh, and she almost died in that fire. A peeress may be addressed as Your Ladyship or Madam. Julian Fellowes's historical drama about a family of aristocrats and their many servants could never resist a good shocker, and it deployed plenty of them over the course of six seasons. Newspapers dont care much for proper style today. Even Alfred the novice footmanaka tall, 1920s Landry Clarkedoesnt hesitate to walk all over him. I still stick with my original theory-that her lady's maid isn't a full-time one like Anna, but that a housemaid might help her or she shares Bertie's mother's lady's maid. It was the same thing when Charles and Diana divorced. The family name is Crawley, and Matthew was the earls third cousin, and had the same surname. I am a Canadian and I wish Canada will re-introduce some of the titles. And he pretty much said, "I feel so sorry for you about your dead imaginary scandalous friend and your terrible shame that I will even lie to my wife about where I got this baby, because although it is quite a few decades early for this expression, I am picking up what you are putting down. Interestingly, if Lord Grantham had a son, he would go by the title ofLord Downton (fully as Viscount Downton)because Lord Grantham also holds this as whats called a subsidiary title which is like a secondary, lesser title. Vikki Stark, M.S.W., M.F.T., is a family therapist and the director of the Sedona Counselling Centre of Montreal. I still dont understand why she must stay at Downton. She was the Jan, as Brady Bunch viewers immediately recognized. I'm not sure if Edith would insist on a lady's maid because of her history as 'Poor Edith.' It might be better to take out the part about the two living daughters of the Earl and Countess of Grantham as that is quite a major spoiler for anyone who is in the middle of watching the show, as I am. Margaret Sweeney married the Duke of Argyll. It cleared up my confusion about the names and titles. The present Countess of Grantham is Our Cora, wife to Robert. It just isnt done. Anna and Baxter are Lady's Maids, Mrs Hughes is the housekeeper. Its the shocking way that Mary treats her younger sister Edith and how remarkably, she gets away with it. Unless she marries a peer, and has that title, could become a Duchess or Countess, but can never be Dowager Countess of Grantham. Trapped between beautiful Mary and adventurous Sybil, Edith was the sad one. Season 4 of "Downton Abbey" introduces a major shift in plot, as well as a shift in style, evident in the fashion of the character Lady Edith Crawley, played by Laura Carmichael. In Downton Abbey 2019, this caused a problem as King George wanted to send Bertie overseas, which would mean missing his own child's birth. I do enjoy watching sad-sack Molesley endure an endless string of indignities. English actor Laura Carmichael doesn't have a problem with that. The rivalry between the two sisters is one of the most defining relationships for Mary throughout the series. Applying the Bare-Minimum Monday Philosophy to Relationships, Mass Shooters and the Myth That Evil Is Obvious, Transforming Empathy Into Compassion: Why It Matters, New Years Eve Survival Guide for the Heartbroken. He claims he likes Lady Edith and likens her to the people we all know in life who can never get it together. We had watched for weeks as Mary not only pushed Edith down, but also mocked her for herfeebleattempts to shine. At the head of the family is Lord Grantham,whos name is Robert Crawley (played by Hugh Bonneville). It is television fiction. 1 level 1 [deleted] Downton Abbey Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. [Watch Downton Abbey]. Like what you see? But because there is such a narrow idea in her family of what constitutes success, her writing career has never been more than tepidly received, and certainly is understood to be a poor substitute for multiple pregnancies when it comes to getting some meaning in her life. Thomas has been routinely scorned for his incessant scheming and then-taboo homosexuality, but he always is allowed to scrabble back up top and hes managed to secure friendships and respect. The social limitations on and the punishing of the Crawley daughters have always been central themes of Downton consider Mary's scandal with her literal death bed (the bed of death! Another old custom, often written into the fathers will when a daughter inherits estate & titles with no surviving brothers, and then marries. Eventually, Edith and Sir Anthony patch things up, get engaged, and even have a wedding day. There doesnt always appear to be a firm rule among this group except in the way they address the butler, housekeeper and cook and vice versa. When Tom Branson was the chauffeur the family called him Branson. The valet was suspected of murder (twice). ), and had a thing for her (yay! and our In season three, it looked as though Edith might finally find happiness. She writesthat Perhaps the lesson of all these stories of Edith being left and left and left again is nothing brings in misery like being entirely at the mercy of other peoples decisions to stay or leave, which is where Ediths father, well-meaning though he may be, has left her. Holmes sees the Marigold storyline as evidence that Edith is learning to take her destiny into her own hands. Set in the early 1900s, the show gives a fairly accurate idea of life for the aristocracy at this time and the changes that the first world war brought to the United Kingdoms formerly rigid class system. If the Crawleys were richer they could have afforded ladys maids for all their daughters but since they cant, they settled with a senior house maid as an unofficial ladys maid for their eldest child. Diana, Princess of Wales was the daughter of an Earl so, prior to her marriage, was addressed as Lady Diana Spencer. Perhaps the lesson of all these stories of Edith being left and left and left again is nothing brings in misery like being entirely at the mercy of other people's decisions to stay or leave, which is where Edith's father, well-meaning though he may be, has left her. Mary, who has men falling all over her, has provided an heir to continue the Grantham line and enjoys the services of a high profile ladys maid, Anna (does Edith do up her buttons herself?) Then she met a newspaper editor named Michael, who offered her a job writing (yay! I cannot resist: were the fictional Downton Abbey valet Mr. Bates to sire male issue, would the boy at some point be styled or called Master Bates?. In a bit of a confusing adjunct to this, when the wife has no title of her own, the wife of a younger son is addressed as Lady (first name of husband). Downton Abbey is, without doubt, one of the most consistently popular TV shows produced in recent times. My mom emailed me last week to complain that we didnt catch a glimpse of Marys. She is the author of Divorce: How to Tell the Kids, Runaway Husbands and My Sister, My Self. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Hope you are doing well. She wont go along with societys plans. I always had a soft spot for this particular ginger maid, who was treated poorly by her baby daddys parents, but once is enough for that story line. The farmer agreed to pretend to accept her story that this baby totally belonged to a terribly scandalous friend of Edith's, and Edith couldn't keep her in the house because of the terrible shame that would result from her family being associated with this scandalous friend. In the case of Downton Abbey, the butler, housekeeper and Cook are Mr and Mrs accordingly and are called by all staff as such as well as among themselves. So Edith was alone again, naturally. Its in series 3, I wont ruin it for you. As she has married untitled Mr Henry Talbot she is Lady Mary Talbot. These fan theories include secret parentage, undercover spies, and, of course, poison. At times, the story of Edith has seemed needlessly sadistic, in that one eventually wonders how many ways (foiled by beautiful sister, dumped at the altar, abandoned in mystery, foiled by wife, foiled by another wife) one woman can be thumped with the giant rubber mallet of life until even the little cartoon birds flying over her head are dizzy. Sometimes the ex-wife wants to hold onto a title, but cannot. I dont remember Annas position prior to her being a ladys maid but she was known to the family and staff as Anna and they appeared to wish to continue to call her Anna after she became a ladys maid if there was not any objection. 1,201, This story has been shared 1,163 times. Im pretty excited about thatif ever there was a couple that deserved mutually assured destruction, its them. Or would only one daughter inherit the title? I was torn about the scene with Isobel and her fallen women. Where does Grantham come from? These two do not like each other, and theyre quite public about it. But before that, like Im the case of Mary, the senior housemaid would be an acting ladys maid. Remember, Lady Sibyls Fenian nuptials were also denied to us. Such a tile does not make the person is a Lord nor would he be styled as such. This was wonderful and very enjoyable. I have asked for all seasons of Downton Abbey for Christmas, but I have seen the second season, where there were THREE daughters of Lord and Lady Grantham. The second and subsequent sons are styled The Honourable William. (Which, quite frankly, she already is, to these people.) In the film they seem to be pretty good friends (despite having previously attempted to ruin each other's lives on multiple occasions), so I don't think she would insist on having one just to spite Mary with her high status and number of servants. They wrapped up Mrs. Hughes health scare lickety splitId thought that would last all season. There is no sexual agency without karmic punishment! 'The Mandalorian' Season 3 Episode Guide: How Many Episodes of 'Mandalorian' Will There Be on Disney+? The Earl of Grantham is a peer and the eldest son of the Earl of Grantham would be styled Viscount Downton, however the Viscount Downton wouldnt be a peer as he is using the title by right of his father, who actually is the title holder. The family refer to the housekeeper and cook as Mrs and their family name regardless if they were ever married or not. Staying Single: What Most People Do If They Divorce After 50. When the servants are at the home of their Lord/Lady, the servants are addressed by their own surname, (e.g. I studied in the UK. Thanks also to Hans for the helpful comment. She found her literal voice. All the named maids (Anna, Gwen, Lily, Edna, etc) have either been promoted or left, so Edith may be waited on by one of the unnamed maids, or she may have simply elected not to have a maid at all. Hope you are doing well and had a great holiday season. After Edith disappeared, Lady Violet (Maggie Smith) went down to Rosamund (Samantha Bond) in London and said they should tell Cora (Elizabeth McGovern) about Edith's baby. OK, so if Robert Crawley, Seventh Earl of Grantham, had a son he would the the Viscount Downton. I took a tiny bit of (guilty) pleasure in the working-class womens mockery of herthough in true high-Tory style, Julian Fellowes had the woman who made fun of Isobel be a lazy good-for-nothing who is constantly demanding to be handed a fish rather than signing up for fishing lessons. Peers divorce. Edith doesn't marry until the last episode of the show, so Madge or any other housemaid dressed her. Im much more interested in the potential below-stairs courtship of Mr. Carson and Mrs. Hughes. Downton Shack. Now, what does any of this have to do with Downton Abbey? He swore his love to Edith, but nobody else believed he was the dead wealthy cousin he said he was and he bailed out as quickly as a writer who suddenly realizes he has no idea where this plotline is going. She's unluckier than Bates, and he went to jail for something he didn't do, for what certainly felt like a really, really long time. I'm afraid though that your future wife is a very wicked woman indeed and enjoyed every one of your scandalous allusions most thoroughly. The article was so frustrating when it left that out. His superiors simply needed to feed Edith a lie that would discourage her from poking around, so they made up a cover story that someone who follows the news would believe. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});
, Royal Family set to join Queen for Christmas at Sandringham. Thomas: Lets make that three wedding receptions we were swizzed out of. Editors note: For the benefit of American readers who havent yet seen Season 3 of Downton Abbey, please do your best to avoid spoilers when commenting. The complete crackpot theory is that this was a cover for Matthews infertility, which the doctors wouldnt disclose to him, presumably to preserve his 1920s masculinity. But say Princess Di and everyone knows who youre talking about. Neat. She is the Countess of Grantham. So before the 3 Crawley girls were married, Anna was a housemaid and looked after all 3 girls. As days go by, the bell that connects Alice's room to Mrs. Brymptom's rings at night inexplicably, and Alice hears footsteps coming from the locked door across the hall from her - the former room of Emma Saxon. As our fictional Downton storyline goes, Robert is the 7th Earl and finds himself without heir. Even Matthews death happened right after he blissfully met his son. So Edith gave her lady's maid time off for the duration of Edith's trip to Downton. He is the original title holder and the titles of the rest of the Crawley family exist because he holds this title (well get onto why very shortly). Even Molesley, who could be considered the Jerry of Downton Abbeyhasstarted to win the admiration of the new lady maid, Baxter. This theory all comes down to . Since abbey means place that nuns or monks used to live, was the Downton house supposed to be a former monastary or nunnery? 1,546, This story has been shared 1,335 times. 5 Spiritual Practices That Increase Well-Being. Anna used to look after all the girls. There are worse things happening in the world." Carson: "Not worse than a maid serving a duke . Violet remains the Dowager Countess of Grantham. As both are the daughters of an Earl, they use the title Lady in front of their names. 3 throughout "The Lady's Maid's Bell", and Stengel would perhaps say she is plagued by . When they visited the possible future Downton Place, I got a bit excited, because for me the issue undercutting this whole plot point about whether the family might lose Downton Abbey is that of course the television program is called Downton Abbey. So Edith might not actually be able to manage it on her own. For more information, please see our It is oddly her grandmother, the Dowager Countess, who seems to understand most fully that Edith's options are limited, and that this is not to be taken as a happy thing, only one the D.C. would argue cannot be changed. Perhaps Gregson will come back from the dead Germany and the family can be reunited at last. Why didnt the guards search his person when it wasnt in his bed as theyd expected? Well, the countys name is Grantham so, obviously, the Robert is Lord of Grantham. In season 3, Lady Mary claims to have undergone a small operation that will help her start a family with Matthew. Another season of Downton Abbey has come to a close, and once again, Lady Edith is unlucky. But Lady Mary has taken over when the series ends, and Fellowes believes shed find savvy ways to keep her familys home in their hands. My understanding is that the lower-ranking staff are addressed by the first name, (e.g., Daisy) and higher-ranking staff who are responsible for their area, (e.g., Mr. Carson in in charge of footmen so on, Ms. Hughes in charge of maids, and Ms. Patmore in charge of the cooks) or who work directly for the family, (e.g., Mr. Bates) or maybe sometimes I guess it could be some more familiar with some staff, (e.g., Anna starting off lower on the ladder and then moving up to waiting on a member of the family). 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